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VOLUME 19

WHAT CAN I DO ? I AM NOT A TEACHER

 

 
VOLUME 19 CONTENTS
 
 
1. WHAT CAN I DO ? I AM NOT A TEACHER
 
2. LETTER TO Nityananda Dasa Prabhu (1995)
 
3. Pranjohn (puranjana) is the chief grudge holder against Prabhupada.
 
4. PURANJANA SAYS OF SANAT'S COW REPORT "The report's main author,Sanatana Gosvami das, DISPLAYS WONDERFUL REALIZATIONS ABOUT PRABHUPADAS LIVING PRESENCE--AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS PART OF THE REPORT."
 
5. IRM LEADER SAYS TO SANAT  "I BELIEVE YOU WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS HAVING BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN REFORMING ISKCON"
 
6. LETTER from Yashodanandan dasa
 
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1. WHAT CAN I DO ? I AM NOT A TEACHER
 
 
My Dear Sankarasana,
   Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated June 6, 1972, and I have noted the contents. As for your question regarding the children, what can I do? I am not a teacher. You should ask Satsvarupa on all of these matters, he is the GBC, so everything small and big should be referred to Satsvarupa. First, you should ask the president in charge how to answer these questions. I am feeling the inclination for retiring into the background and simply translating my Srimad-Bhagavatam, therefore I have delegated this GBC to manage everything and give me relief. So they shall give you all good guidance, and if there is anything further to know, it is stated that if one is always fully engaged in the devotional service of the Lord with full sincerity of attitude, beginning with the tongue, that Krishna will Himself appear to the devotee and all questions will be answered personally by Him. Of course, if there is some very urgent matter, I am always happy to hear from my beloved disciples.
   So far your question about jealousy, spiritual jealousy means to think always that the service rendered by such and such devotee is so nice and pleasing to Krishna, so let me try harder to please Krishna than him and then Krishna will notice me also.
   Hoping this will meet you in good health.
 
Your ever well-wisher,
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
 
(S.P.Letter to: Sankarasana  Los Angeles 13 June, 1972)
 
Note: So if the parents of the gurukula children were always fully engaged in the devotional service of the Lord with full sincerity of attitude, beginning with the tongue then why did they not at least feel worried about sending their God sent children to tamalts sinister rurukula. Admitted they may not  have being qualified to have Krsna personally appear to them, but at least Krsna would have given a sincere soul the knowledge from within to protect their dependants. Those who were surrendered to tamalt gave up the duty which Prabhupada had repeatedly told them was first and foremost, namely child worship.
 
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2. LETTER TO Nityananda Dasa Prabhu (1995)
 
Stephen Voith,sanat Go.das
June 6,1995
Ithaca,NY


Dear Nityananda Dasa Prabhu,

Please accept my humble dandavats at your feet.

All Glories to our Lord, Master and Savior, His Loving Divine Grace A.
C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Maharaja Who is: The Supremost Supreme
Personality of Servitor Godhead and Empowered Saktyavesa Avatara of Lord
Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu; the Personified Mercy Incarnation of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu;
the Personified Teachings of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu;
The Personified Teachings of the Vedas,most importantly the Srimad
Bhagavatam and Caitanya Caritamrta,etc.;
the sum total of all the Demigods and great sages and Devotee Saints;the
Most Munificent Incarnation of  Krsna's Unlimited Mercy in the history
of Lord Brahma's Universe (as supported by the following Sastric
statement from Krsna Book,Vol 1 ,page 209 in the Chapter entitled "SONGS
BY THE GOPIS".: "This is confirmed
by Rupa Gosvami a when he addressed Lord Caitanya as the most munificent
Incarnation because Lord Caitanya distributed the words of Krsna and
love of Krsna free of charge all over the world.");
Perfect and Infallible Representative of Lord Sri Krsna and Greatest and
mst Confidential Devotee of Srimati Radharani BhaktiDevi.

Thus all Glories to His Loving Divine Grace Sri Srimad 108 A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Maharaja,the Perfect and Incomparable
Personality of Servitor Godhead and the Inimitable Acarya and Messiah
for the Age of Kali!
And all Glories to Srila Prabhupada's Most Exalted amd Unlimitedly
Merciful Eternal Spiritual Master,Sri Srimad His Divine Grace
Bhaktisiddhanta Sarsvati Gosvami Prabhupada Maharaja,our Spiritual
Grandfather,protector and well-wisher.
All Glories to Gaura Kisora Dasa Babaji Maharaja.
All Glories  to Srila Thakura Bhaktivinode,The Great Soul Who pioneered
the Hare Krishna Movement in the recent Age on behalf o Lord Sri
Caitanya Mahaprabhu,and Whose book, "Life and Teachings of Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu" entered the Western side of Bhartavarsa the exact same year
as our Srila PrabhupadaDeva Appeared in this world (1896), accompanied
by Religion,Knowledge and Compassion for suffering (and spiritually
emaciated) humanity and all living beings,which thus signaled the
Sastric predicon (by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu) that His Name would be
heard soon in every town and village--as well as the Thakura's own
Sastric Prognostication that "soon a Personality Will Appear who will
distribute Krsna Consciousness and Love of Krsna all over the world."...
All Glories to the Six Gosvamis  of Vrindavana. All Glories to Lord Sri
Krsna Caitanya,Prabhu Nityananda,Sri Advaita,Gadahara,Sri Vasadi Gaura
Bhakta Vrnda.
All Glories to Srimati Radharani and Her Eternal Gopi Associates.
And All Glories to Lord Sri Krsna,The Supermost Supreme Personality of
Godhead,The Supreme Enjoyer and Owner of all the Three Worlds and the
Well-Wishing Friend of all living entities.

Dear Prabhu,

please allow me to introduce my humble self to your Grace. My name is
Sanatana Gosvami dasa. I am a very presumptuous and offensive
aspiring follower of the bona fide servants of His Divine Grace A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Maharaja. I have actually no pious credits
or good qualities at all. Anything 'good' that has ever been performed
by 'my' body or mind is ony possible to have happened by the Causeless
Mercy and Divine Grace of our Eternal Spiritual Master and His exalted
Devotees. And,conversely,anything bad or offensive performed by me in
Their presence is due only to my own low birth,sinful proclivitis and
false identification of self in the egoistic material concept of life.
In short,you would have to look long and hard to find someone as uniquely
offensive,fallen wretched and unqualified as me. I cannot steadily
follow the strict regulative principles of BhaktiYoga, and I'm offense
personified. My only hope is that i'm often times praying for the
prophylactic association of Srila Prabhupada Acarya's nice
representatives so that perhaps some good qualities may become manifest
in my otherwise useless and hapless person--and so that my roguish
nature may be stifled and exposed. Please, therefore,being kind and
merciful, give to me your good advice and association.

Prabhu, i've oftentimes thought about writing you a letter and inquiring
from your good self about certain thorny and controversial issues (Re:
ISKCON), and also to share my own thoughts and realizations about
Prabhupada's eternal Instructions;and especially how those Sastric
statements must be applied to the different problems created by those
rascals who have systematically attempted to cheat Prabhupada and the
innocent public by posturing as Pure Devotee Acaryas.
Many times i sat down and attempted to put my thoughts down on paper to
share with you but,until now,by Krsna's desire,it has not been a timely
thing to do. I've suddenly felt moved to do it,however,after talking to
my dear friend,Rasala das adhikari,who you may have heard is THE premier
Cow Protector practically in all of Iskcon.

[to be continued]
 
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3. Pranjohn (puranjana) is the chief grudge holder against Prabhupada.
 
So,PudASSura (puranjana) is the ringleader for those who are hell-bent on
blaspheming [ie. blaming] Prabhupada for the wrongs committter by the
isgone misleaders and Deviationists.

This turdley case--which is no more than a cleverly-disguised
Kali-attempt to defame,discredit and impugn the Spotless Character and
Name of the Supreme Lord's Representative-- is tantamount to God-killing
[Kamsa's Lila],because Prabhupada does Represent God,therefore,to
attack,smear,'kill', or character-assassinate the Lord's Representative
is non-different from spewing vitriol upon the entire Parampara,and
castigating the Lord and His Teachings, Bhagavad-gita [and etc.].
To say that 'Prabhupada's Teachings are to blame for-or the cause of-
horrendous abuses to innocent children,is exactly the same as claiming
that the Words of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are wrong and
create a demonic [OPPOSITE OF SPIRITUAL AND MORAL]  situation wherever
or whenever they are applied--one so bad that future generations will be
mortally scarred...UNLESS those teachings are destroyed.

Therefore,the sum and substance of PADAs Turdley law case is simply to
destroy faith in God by smearing the Name,Character and Teachings of the
Infallible Representative of God-AND God . It is absolutely NOT about
child molestation--because if it were,such issues could easily be
resolved without dragging Prabhupada's Name in as a culpable factor.

Therefore,this case is engineered by PudDemone because he is the
ringleader of the demonic view that the Spiritual Master is to blame for
his own parental neglect and abandonment of his child[ren]. And his
[SUBTLE] mesage all along,if read carefully,is NOT that Tamalt is to
blame,but that Prabhupada  is to blame;and that [ReverseSpeech-AND
Forward Speech] message has been broadcast for years to every nook and
corner of Molestkcon,and PADA's audience is clearly the abused children
[brothers and sisters of Pud's own sexually abused/parentally-abandoned
daughter]; he has factually been intentionally fanning the flames of
these hapless souls' misplaced hatred of Srila Prabhupada for as long as
he's been circulating his demented writings. Factually also,if BareKing
Puranjana were upset with tamalt and tamalt's regime,why has he
personally never done a thing to take the TKagey [and demonic regime] to
court? Why does he never cite Sastra that says emphatically that such
blasphemous soul-killers should be put to death? Why only
limp-wristed,ineffectual bareking all these years,but then the moment
PADA's goal of Rurucoolies' assailing Srila Prabhupada comes into
focus,THEN ITS TIME TO MOBILIZE--BIG TIMEis it sanat? "Yes,sir! Get the
lynch party mobilised,we smell blood! By golly,we can squeeze tamalt
out,get his seat and enjoy Prabhupada's Blood [Movement] for
ourselves...and Prabhupada will be further discredited,but WE will be
seen as white knights and bona fide reformers,and house
cleaners,etc!..."

Thus Pud is himself most angry at the Pure Devotee,blames Prabhupada for
his daughter's rape,which ONLY happened because he coudn't control his
senses,and wanted Rasika Lila 'nectar'. He abandoned and neglected his
child,tamalt's team gave him his comeuppants,now Pud is angry for this
reaction,and sees Prabhupada as being defective in how He set things
up,and therefore to blame for Tamalt's regime's lila;instead of seeing
the obvious: you,Pudemone,are solely and primarily responsible for your
OWN problems and actions and their concommitant reactions. Prabhupada IS
NOT [to blame]

So,Next Pud builds up a grudge,masking it as hatred of Tamalt,but biding
his time to strike out at Prabhupada. And how CONVENIENT! "This turdley
case is NOT MY DOING!!", squeals the Pud when Yudhisthira's side
isolates him as the ringleader of "VERY NOMINAL" [VERY public!] [and
flame-fanner of] blasphemey of Krishna's Representative. "No way,man,i'm
only against Tamalt,man,yeah! So what,if the Collies blame
Prabhupada,it's good for 'em to get it off their chest [and for millions
of other 'public-abused' [by tamalts' regime] folks to also get IT off
their chests] ]  then they'll feel MUCHMOBETTA--hey! it could of been
muchmoworser,we could of had those meat eating coolies in there saying
'Prabhupada let us be starved in Gorukula,therefore we eat cows,but
Prabhupada's to blame for our cowkilling'...or i,pudemone could be
blaming my gobibhava lessons [and daughter'srape] on Prabhupada (which i
do!)..."

So,Pranjohn is the chief grudge holder against Prabhupada,and we've seen
much evidence of his subtle message to this effect,which he has facilely
transferred to hundreds of other individuals,most specifically the
[former] children and their bogus parents who,like PudASSura,are STILL
SEEKING TO PASS THE BUCK FOR THEIR BUCKING PRABHUPADAS INSTRUCTIONS
REGARDING THEIR OWN  PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IN PROPERLY REARING THEIR
CHILDREN.

Thus this turdley case is Pud's [and fri ends] because it s the
fullfillment of HIS [and their] desire to  remain aloof eternally from
the mercy of the Pure Devotee via cleverly disguised and highly
poisonous blasphemy borne from a desire to imitate their 'Lord' Kamsa
and [attempt to] kill God..

your serpant, sanat

PS  after spending three years,11 months and $3,300 on phone with
Puranjana,i once asked him if he's read a particular Conv. of SP. He
replied that he didn't have the Converstions Books [!!!!!!!!] i was
flabbergasted! I couldn't believe my ears. He 'seemed' so committed to
Prabhupada's instructions,but here he was admitting he didn't personally
even have a set of books--that i kept quoting from,and writing about,esp.
SP's  being tortured and poisoned--and therefore no wonder i was so
distraught in trying to get his empathy on these Supremely weighty
topics!.. It took me a while to realize what a hypocrite and pretender
he was,esp. in regards to how he made such a big deal ALL the [friggin]
time about "tamalt's crew HID SP's instructions...and they killed my
best friend [Sulocana] for liberating those
instructions,etc.etc.etc",and suddenly-at that time- i realized i was
wasting time,big time,even bothering to interest Pud in the crucial
Conv. at the end of Prabhupada's Stay here,which fully and unequivocally
implicated PADA's brothers in murder [ISK] Cons Piracy...I was shocked
and dismayd that even i was so dedicated to getting at the truth,and i
thought pud was too,and i strained and strained to get him to see what i
could see,and he let me spend so much time,energy and money
remonstrating to him and shoda about the 'evidence' and they could have
[NOT] cared less,and THEN it turns out PADA WASNT WITH ME ON THE ISSUE
AT ALL BECAUSE HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE THE BOOKS-- THE LAW BOOKS OF SRILA
PRABHUPAD--WHICH REVEALED THE CRIME OF THE
MILLENIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So i was BareKing up the wrong Pranjohn tree; he never cared about
Prabhupada being poisoned,because he sensed it all along and never acted
on the truth;he was undoubtedly glad Prabhupada was tortured,because
judge the thing by the result: now Pada and Co. are very happy in
torturing Prabhupada further--and torturing and giving heartache to
Prabhupada's well-wishers,friends and disciples--by castigating him with
the blasphemous vitriol of accusing His Divine Grace of the ost horrible
crimes....And if this rascalPADA had EVER actually read those books
which [his alleged friend] Slocana had liberated,then PudASSura would
know clearly that the charges against Srila Prabhupada are not at all
VERY NOMINAL or slight,but actually the most horrific charges that
anyone could ever be accused of [charges which a follwer DOES NOT EVEN
WISH TO REPEAT OR ACKNOWLEDGE!!!]

Yes,pud never read the Letters and Conversations,because if he
had,perhaps he'd know what is what,he'd have awareness that
tamalt,JaggedEdge,SatsHeShitface,RabidDoguru,et al had agreed to take
FULL AND TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY for Gurukula;furthermore,PADA would know
he' responsible for his own children, "otherwise don't bring children
into the world."

But,even sans readingSPL & SPC,Pud could've figgured these things out
from Bhagavad-gita,S.Bhag.,etc.,because each of Prabhupada's works "Is
Complete in Itself."

But if Pud never had read the Conv.,it's doubtful he ever read ANYTHING
in a detailed,exhaustive or investigative manner...THIS IS ALSO
EVIDENCED BY -- AND UNDERSCORED-- BY THE FACT THAT PUDHEAD DISCARDS
SCRIPTURAL INJUNCTIONS {AS QUOTED TO HIM BY MOOKUNDA AND OTHERS} AND
TAKES SOLE REFUGE IN HIS MENTAL SPECULATIONS AND CONCOCTIONS,which
poisons and misleads any fool so stupid as to embrace his venemous
siddhanta.

YES! For example,Mookunda Prabhu has recently QUOTED SCRIPTURE and
demonstrated thereby that blasphemy of Krishna's Dear Pure Devotee
Servants causes havoc in the world,and such offenses if allowed togo
unchecked can bring about a nuclear catastrophe. This is sastric,and
well-explained by Prabhupada Himself in dozens of places--n same context
even. But Pud says: "Nyet,that's demoniac preaching!!,rascals!"

Why does he squeala so Pudley,uh,loudly? Because,HE is the very
Duhsasana [Dushbagsana?] who is maligning the Pure Devotee,which
maligning will be responsible possibly for a worldwide catastrophe,as
Dusasana's touching Queen Mother Draupadi's Hair was the chief cause
give by Sri Krsna for the Holocost known as Kuruksetre,in which the
Kauravas were wiped off the faceof planet Earth...


So the biggest SwinePigs squeal the most ferociously when Sastra is
aimed at them,and at their obnoxious attaxe on Religion Personified and
the Personified Teachings of Religion Personified;therefore PADA proves
his cosummate hatred for Srila Prabhupada first by blaming the teachings
of SP [in unison w/his demnic Gov't-supported friends like E.Jurke
Roachford,the Gov't Press Ministry,Tamalt,GurkulieParents,Hickey,former
students,etc] on the abuses (and everything else that's gone 'wrong' in
these rascals' lives because of their failure to apply--after
imbibing--the Unlimited Teachings of Krishna Avatar,Srila
PrabhupadaDeva)...and next they attack directly the Sastras by preaching
that those Sastras are demonic if utilized to expose their own
madness,and finally these Swine squeal and hisss at the Prabhupadanugas
themselves who apply the Lance-like [Lancelot?] Sastra to the boil of
Pada's madness [at Prabhupada],and cut it open for the world [of
devotees] to see [and smell!]  the putified Pussessence of the
AssentialPussanjana,uh Poreanjana...is it sanat?

ys,sanat
 
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4. PURANJANA SAYS OF SANAT'S COW REPORT "The report's main author,Sanatana Gosvami das, DISPLAYS WONDERFUL REALIZATIONS ABOUT PRABHUPADAS LIVING PRESENCE--AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS PART OF THE REPORT."
 
THE PRABHUPADA 'ANTI DEFAMATION' ASSOCIATION Vol.1 # 3
234 E. Caldwell Ave. Suite 50 Visalia,CA 93277 USA 209 738 9807
 
April-June 1993 Issue.
Publisher & Editor: Puranjana das.

FEATURE STORY:

COW DEBACLE: Personality of Kali enters Gita Nagarai?
 
PADA has a 160 page report: "Gita Nagari Farm AS IT IS".  Devotees we have given the
report to are shocked,especially by the graphic photos. WE THINK THIS
REPORT IS THE MOST DETAILED ACCOUNT OF THE GBC's "LIVING GURU PROJECT"
MANAGEMENT PATTERN EVER PRODUCED. The report is a group effort,signed by
former members of the Gita Nagai communiy.

The report's main author,Sanatana Gosvami das, DISPLAYS WONDERFUL
REALIZATIONS ABOUT PRABHUPADAS LIVING PRESENCE--AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS
PART OF THE REPORT.

Otherwise,it the usual disaster scenario: two "living [DEADwyler] gurus"
(no less),drive out the good servants and bring in the inexperienced-if
not dubious. The original buildings are in bad repair,yet a massive
effort is made to build a new temple. The report asks: Is this New
Vrindavana reborn,or what?!

Money meant for the cows is diverted to the ISKCON Foundation,and said
Foundation chops down forest trees. Two inexperienced men replace eight
experienced men. Cows are forced into unheigenic conditions,they become
ill,lose interest in eating,develop mouth abscesses,etc.. Feed is mixed
with manure,making cows sick. And (Kali beating a cow?) a new cowherd is
seen beating o the cows with an iron pipe. Cows are malnourished and
die.

All this is duly reported to the Philadelphia guru [WilLie DEADwylie].
He graciously thanks the devotee for bringing it to his attention by
calling him a "karmi,politician,cheater",and so on. The guru asks: how
soon we can "get the herd down in size."..."What,four or five years with
the cows at most?" Yikes? The Philly guru them details his plan to
utlize the land for various big projects,but where will the cows go?

Two oxen fall thru a barn roof-electorocuting one on the spot. This is
also reported to the Philly guru,he responds by blaming the cowherd
reporter that he sabotaged (ie. killed) that ox himself. [WHOAH!!!
sounds like how Pudface is now blaming the 'child abuse-reporter'--Linda
for the abuses which they "duly reported",is it not?!]
... The other ox
dies of malnutrition a few weeks later. Funds go missing. The Sunday
feast is cancelled.  "Relationships devotees" make the "cow protector
group" appear as fanatics by saying "we shouldn't criticize,prabhu." No
wonder the GBC encourages these "relationships"-functions which
help,albeit unknowingly,smother the truth.

A "KNOWN CHILD MOLESTER" IS GIVEN SHELTER, and the list of
scams,plots,disintegration,hypocrisy and so forth,in this book,is too
much to mention herein. But we highly recommend that you get a copy for
yourself from  "The Gita Nagari in Exile Group". Remember that Krishna
is a Cowherd boy! Contact and help His cow-seva exiled servants:
Sanatana Gosvami das c/o Stephen Voith,POB 22 Port Roal,PA 17082 717 436
9843

Cow Debacle?

Since PADA's story on the cow debacle at Gita Nagarai was printed,much
argument has developed. We now have the names of over 20 witnesses who
verify the story of Sanatana Gosvami das. WE ALSO HAVE NAMES OF
WITNESSES TO HIS TORY ON THE KNOWN MOLESTOR BEING HARBORED AT THE
POTOMAC TEMPLE. Since this story was printed,others have testified that
the cowherd who replaced Sanatana Gosvami das was cruel to his family
members . [JUST SEE!! 'our' report caused MANY people to FIANALLY take
heads out of sand,come out of denial,and for the FIRST TIME acknowledge
there 'were problems',abuses,etc...]...

PADA's position is simple mathematics: If most other iskcon projects
have suffered from massive manpower losses,why is Gita Nagarai exempt?
If Deities cannot be maintained n many places,whywon't the cows suffer
as the deities have? If the devotees are leaving and the programs are
suffering,why are so many ple coming forward to make big smoke screen?
As the bus loead of devotees bounces down the steep Ravine [dra] ,some
come forward to ring the alarm. But the GBC apologistssay," don't
criticize,prabhu,after all,the bus has not hit the absolute bottom of
the ravine yet."

Similarly,in Papal times there was a group of scholars who were Papal
apologists. The Gaudia Matha was chock full of apologists. but we should
note that most of them disliked Prabhupada. Let's get real here. Bogus
guru posturing destroyed so many other projects,it will destroy Gita
Nagari too if we allow it.

[so why is  PADAhead APOLOGIZING FOR THE RURUCOLLIES in their blasphemy
of Guru?!]...

Sanatana Gosvami dasa has analyzed that the Boston guru [SDemonG] tries
to put on  mellow front,but has his aggressive henchman,the Philadelphia
guru...do the dirty work for him. PADAhas a letter which is one of the
worst [BEST?] examples of character assassination (yes it is more
neanderthal than Kirtananda's henchmen's) from the Philly guru. He
paints a picture that those who fail to agree with the "New Pope"
(Philli guru) are: false saviors,psychopathologcal,mentally
deteriorated,prone to violence,disruptive,hostile,belligerent,empowered
by money,not sane,delusional,verbally abusive,physically
threatening,fallen and so forth. He warns of violence. Who is "not sane"
here?....

signed: Puranjana das
 
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ExSurps from a PADA letter dated 5-15-93 to Kirtirogue,uh raja,pabhu..

To: KurrTRogue
POB 1445
AllahChewa,FL 3215-1445

Dear Kirtiraja,

please accept my most humbull obeisances. All glories to Srila
Prabhupada. Thank you for your letter of May 5th.

I am sorry that the copy of the cow report  with me is my only
reference. Additional copies are available from Santana Gosvami das in
Port Royal,PA He has been asking for contributions to cover his printing
costs. Otherwise,perhaps someone else in Alachua has a copy? Sanatana is
currently gathering "around 30" witnesses who validate his story. For me
e probem seems like inevitable arithmetic;if most other US projects are
withering,drying up,or they've been closed from heavy-handed guru mis
behavior,why won't it happen at Gita Nagarai?

Perhaps you've seen Ravinedra Swarupa das'es response to the report?,not
one "point for point" rebuttal, BUT MERELY A TOTAL CHARACTER SMEAR ON
SANATANA GOSVAMI DASA. [WHOAH!! sounds familiar: no "point-for-point"
debate from PADA on our multitudinous charges,but only "A TOTAL
CHARACTER SMEAR' ON SANAT'S WIFE,is it sana?!..]

PUD: It seems that RSD is now follwing in the divine pattern of
Kirtanananda swami.,Ramesvara and similar types. That was their typical
methtod of responding to 'dissenters'. ...Thus I can readily identify
with Sanatana's present mistreatment by the "living guru" project's
leaders.

One thing people do not recognize is the fact that the gaudia Matha's
second-wave of gurus,the so-called reformed wave,was sometimes much more
obnoxious than the original deviants. [WHOAH!! how about the 'third and
fourth 'reformed' wave in Isgone--THE PADAWAVE?...]

Thus,Ravinedra Swarupa-types,who are supposedly the reformed saviors of
the day,might actually be more obnoxious than their original first wave
of Kirtananda,etc. So,Sanatana Gosami dasa might be facing an
unprecedented wave of hypocrisy and meglomania,worse than the first wave
members. [how about from the PADA-wave members,and how they're
excoriatng Linda,after she SOLELY blew the lid off the decades' long
child abuse/coverups-scams at GitUhgNiggardly!]
...Some karmis even told
us that the first wave guys might have had the excuse that they didn't
know better,but the second wave guys know very well that imitation of
parampara members is forbidden. [how about  PADA's imitation of
Tamalt?]...
Of course they simultaneously glorified Tirtha --the black
snake,Ravana,envious,contaminated,kali-cela,who cheated his godbrothers
out of the properties [like tamalt cheated Pud?!]...,after our
Prabhupada said that this Tirtha M. had Srila Bhaktisiddhanta killed
with poison. Why glorify this man?

So Prabhupada felt his life was threatened because he was exposing these
men,and now our leaders want to glorify these men ass great,exalted
parampara members. The same people Prabhupada called "guru killers."
THIS IS WHAT SANATANA GOSVAMI'S REAL PROBLEM IS, HES FACING A VERY UNFAIR
TRIAL HERE ,just as I faced when I was booted out the door by the living
guru clique....

Puranjana das

[so,i guess Puranjana, by his own standard of judgement,WAS ALSO GUILTY
for all crimes going on around him BEFORE he was "BOOTED OUT THE DOOR BY
THE LIVING GURU CLIQUE",is it sanat?]
 


Further update from Pud...

THE PRABHUPADA ANTI DEFAMATION ASSOCIATION 1994 Vol. 3

1. COW DEBACLE. We hate to be the ones to say "we told you so",but
didn't we tell you about the deteriorating situation for the cows at
Gita Nagari in '93? It has since become much worse.

An ox named Burfi [and the other cows] are unable to obtain drinking
water without navigating the infamous mud and ice water holes...Burfi
fell into a hell,uh hole of ice water and got stuck. He was left to
freeze there for two days. Hay was put in front of him but the ther cows
were eating it. Then,after two days of this torture,the current cowherd
man drove up with a big tractor,hooked up Burfi's horns with a long
chain--to the tractor--and began pulling. This broke Burfis' neck. We
were told that while Burfi was still alive,his horns were then cut
off,pumping out a massive pool of blood. We have several color photos of
the dehorned Burfi. and blood. "They poached him" was the comment of
several "Gita Nagari in Exile" members. [NOTE: this entire incident was
covered,documented and reported on by Linda,my wife,who was issued a
Restraining order on her birthday, March 2,1993 which Order came from
Kirtana Rasa das (and Ravinedra) ,Curt MOUSEart,SDoG's fanatic
disciple,who later took us to court for Aggra. Harssment in the Second
degree,though the Court found us NOT guilty,but found Mouseface and
Ravinedra-SatsHeDupies Guilty  OF HARASSMENT IN THE FIRST DEGREE...!]

PADA: Some were [and still are] crying in shock and disbelief at this
latest incident,yet another inauspicious byproduct of the GBC guru
meltdown [and another opportunity for PADA to get the edge on Tamalt seat...?]

PADA: ...A GBC supporter recently claimed that the reason the "Gita
Nagari In Exile" Group developed in the first place is that "they were
all into intoxication." Really? These folks had a positive history of
healthy cows,and the most cumulative experience in the area of working
with cows?  [hey! now PADA&Co. are also accusing us of being dopeHades?]
PADA:  Padmavati : 3 years with ws; Linda,8;Rasala 10;Sri Krishna das:
13;Sita,7;Sanat,3; Dhruva [not a cow man directly,but very
experienced].,
and so on. They were all kicked out,some by police
restraining orders! Manure was NOT piling up to the cows' wastes as it s
now,giving them horribe diseases. The barns WERE getting painted and
repaied by the Exiles,and NOT falling apart. Leaking pipes WERE being
fixed by the exiles. Hay WAS grown and harvested.

The health of the cows as being looked after. There WERE funds for the
vet. Moreover,Sanatana Gosvami had even received a letter of recognition
for his meritorious service to the cows from Ravinedra swarupa,just the
day after he was booted out. Sanatana Gosvami also personally arranged
for more than $70,000 to be brought in to help the cows. Why wasn't
drugs mentioned THEN?
...[The Exiles were ] not even retained as outside advisors.

Suppose you went to a prestigious lawfirm and fired all the senior
lawyers,and replaced them with inexperienced law neopytes? You'd bankrpt
the company,that's what. Cows are now like some kind of "business asset
write off" that we can manipulate for guru politics? Clearly the motive
behind removing all these people is guuru mania,it's political,and has
nothing to do with anyones'  "smoking pot"... [yep,so PADA's "TamaltSeat
MANIA" is what's at issue here also,not our "smoking pot",is it sanat?
Pud is being POLITICAL?]

PADA: Ravinedra swarupa had hinted that he wanted to 'get the herd down
in size'. Are we now seeing the horrible methods he may gleefully employ
to achieve that end? By the way,all the Adopt-A-Cowfunds go to his place
in Philadelphia "for administration"  A more comprehensive account of
these events will soon be aailable from the GN in Exile devotees and
PADA ....[yep,we supplied it,and PADA ignored it,buried it...]

"IN REMEMBRANCE OF KRISHNAS COW PROGRAM", by Padmavat dasi

"For many years I remember fondly,now thru tears i tell the story.
Sweet cows in goodness grazed the pastures,serving Krishna with all they
had.
Oxen worked so hard for Krishna,they pulled the plow but now are sad.
For suffering has come to these sweet creatures whom Krishna holds so
dear.
Where once was jy in serving Krishna,now there lies great fear.
Where once was life so pure and gentle,now lies death and filth and
sorrow
For the cows whom Krishna hlds so dear,are of less concern than money
here;'preaching' is more important they say,but who are we to preach,i
pray?
If to Krishna's cows who have done so much service,we leave only to die,
in their stool and in their tears? Don't you see how the cows are
suffering? From Iskcon's poison of greed and envy? This poison s not for
the cows to bear. [guess again!] and the ones who suffer are the ones
who care;the envious and the greedy won't allow facility,for those who
are caring,willing and able,to do right by the cows and Krishna!"
 
LETTER from PADA dated 5/2/96

From: jai@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaja)
Subject: ISKCON Harassment

The following was received from Tim Lee <pada@netvoyage.net>
on Wednesday,May 29,1996

*   For more information,please write to the
*   Prabhupada Anti-Defamation Association (PADA)
*  E-mail address  pada@netvoyage.net

EMERGENCY! COURT CASE PENDING

ISKCON GBC Harassment!

The GBC says that they are now going to re-unite Srila Prabhupada's
family and let everyone comw ba to ISKCON. Is this reallly the case?
What has been going on recently is that: a devotee discovered many
discrapancies
taking place in Gita Nagari especially toward the cows,and he tried to
bring some of these matters to the attention of aSatsvarupa das
Ghostammy [SDoG] ,and the various other ISKCON leaders and "ISKCON WORLD
REVIEW" [Kunti dasi], etc. HoweverSDoG and Ravinedra swappa had this
person banned from the GN property by a police injunction.

The devotees who had been his friends treated this devotee like he was
some kind of demon practically,although he had given thousands of
dollars of donations and years of free service to them.

The wife of this devotee had also been a teacher [ACTUALLY 'nursery' NOT
"teacher"]
for some of the GN children,and she claims that many,perhaps
most,of the male children were homosex molested ...

SDoG's propaganda resulted in severe stresses for those who objected to
the GBC's molester guru idea...

In sum she [Linda] also felt  [reads F E L T ,NOT "knew" or "covered
up"]
that there was a pattern of abuse not only of the cows,but of the
children. Various efforts were made by this couple to address these
issues,but no one from ISKCON made any attempt to address their
complaints. Worse,Ravinedra swarupa,a GBC and guru,issued a letter
saying the complaints were coming from a "pschopath" and so on
(character assassinaon).

So after giving many years of selfless service to ISKCON,these people
were booted out the door when they asked how these issues should be
addressed. Worse,the GBC authorities told these people   that they had
to actually worship,to be pure,the same persons who are the founding
fathers...of all the abusive guru problems... [so,why did Puranjana
allow this to happen? And why is he now blaming Linda,when he
ackowledges that his own brothers mislead innocent people who crossed
the threshhold of 'Prabhupada's' WHOLE WORLD HOUSE OF BHAKTI?! PADA's
IS-Contradictory madness-meltdown?: "they're to blame!" "No,you're to
blame." "PADA's NOT to blame!"...]

PADA: And then the GBC agents called the police on these folks and had
them removed from ISKCON properties BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY COULD NOT ACCEPT
THAT CHILD MOLESTER GURUS,AND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE ARE WERE OR COULD
HAVE BEEEN GODS PURE GURUS.

Now it appears that Iskcon is trying to charge these poor victimised
persons with even more criminal complains.,and they are still refusing
to sit down and discuss even what are their complaints? What kind of
re-union is it when persons who complain about the child molester gurus
succession are driven out and arssed with lawsuits and legal tricks?
We'd like to get any help you can in this matter,and please tell us any
agencies thatcould help us deal with this problem...

Now,much to my bewilderment,the lawyer who represents this SDoG has
asked me to join their program? Who wants to join this program?  I do
not think that even alt.satan would join this program ? Does this man
have no ordinary common sense? I feel offendead  that they are asking me
to join this program. Wouldn't you?

[just see! MouseFace could feel Pudz' pulse,and sensed intuitively that
Puranjan DID join "this program"--he [PADA] now says that Tamalt's &
Co.'s "Closest Advisors"-Very Nominal blasphemy of Srila Prabhupada in
the Turdley case is a "normal reaction",and that it is helpful for the
'Gurukulies' to react like this IN PUBLIC!...]

PADA:  Thanking you,

Puranjana das

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5. IRM LEADER SAYS TO SANAT  "I BELIEVE YOU WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS HAVING BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN REFORMING ISKCON"

A letter from Krishna Kanta desai:
[post marked April 15,1993]

Dear Prabhu,
please accept my humbe obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada,the
one and only guru. [what about Krishna,Bhaktisiddhanta,etc.?]

As discussed on the phone,could you please send IMMEDIATELY,
1) the 250 page report
2) The 160 page corroborative evidence
3) the tape with Suresvara [refers to tape recording of Sanat's reading
of the Intro to his GN Farm AsIt IS Report before Radha-Damodar [at GN]
on Dec. 22,1992, the day before Sanat's press Conf. at the GN milk
parlor...]
4)Anything else you may have.

Please find enclosed a money order for 55 ollars. Please send
information to:
Krishna Kanta Desai
19 Victor St.
Caldmore,Walsall WS 1 4JA
West Midlands,England,UK

Please keep up the good work. I BELIEVE YOU WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS  <<<<<<<<<<
HAVING BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN REFORMING ISKCON. [of course,what's the                         ^
value of HIS opinion?...]
I believe things will NOW start to change. Hare Krishna!                           ^
                                                                                                                                                                     ^
your servant, KRISHNA KANT DESAI [KrishnaKanDecide]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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6. LETTER from Yashodanandan dasa

Monday March 18,1996 Trayodasi.

Dear Sanatana Goswami dasa,
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,our eternal divine master,who lives in
His insructions.

THIS IS A PERSONAL AND COFIDENTIAL LETTER. PLEASE DO NOT COPY IT OR
REPRODUCE  IT

Thank you for your recent package with all the enclosures. I have noted
the contents carefully. I have especially read and re read so many of
the letters from different devotees. These were impressive. Puranjana
keeps in touch with me four or five times a week.  He keeps me regularly
informed whenever you give him a call [yeah! $3,300 spent from '93 thru
'97,mostly talking about Prabhupada's being poisoned by Tamalt,though he
never listened...until he finally saw which way the wind started
blowing,esp. after i got viciously attacked at DC WrathaYatra and the
attack was found out by Abhinandan who subsequently called me from
Houston,told me to talk to FBI w/him because he'd been in Vrindaban when
Bhukti Caru came out Nov. 8 or 10th saying "Prabhupada said he's been
poisoned";then finally PudDemone decided THIS IS HIS ISSUE and starts
his typical Pranjohn Bar King-syndrome: I exposed everything,I am equal
and greater than Tamaltt,YOU have never done anything!!! you just slept
while i,Bare King Pranjohn went YOW YOW YOW YOW YOW YOW YOW!!!...]

Yashoda:

I wish to express my heartfelt  sympathies and obeisances to you and
your faithful and devoted spouse,Bhaktin Linda,for your sincere efforts
to help in reestablishing Srila Prabhupada as the Acarya of His
movement. Manydevotees [or sahajiya devotees] often express that we
speak to strong or too stridently but that is the only way to deal with
goondas and usurpers of the spiritual master's property,see cc a-lila
7/50-51-52.

I know you have both suffered tremendously in your efforts to defend
Krishna's cows and children,however Krishna and Srila Prabhupada see
everything. Just keep up your chanting,hear Srimad Bhagavatam and
worship Tulasi Devi. Hear regularly from the pure devotee Srila
Prabhupada and see if you can maintain some kind of regular association
with devotees 0f like mind. [these may be rare in your corner.]

What is your current position in your legal proceedings wit satvaruppa.
Or with satsvaruppa's "mouse" against you? Has the case been dismissed?
Is it still progressing? If it has not been dismissed,what are you
accused of? And at what stage is it at? What is your line of defence?
Why not present the court with some of Satsvaruppa's writings and tell
the court that he has inflicted severe emotional distress upon you by
writing disparaging statements about Srila Prabhupada?: "entering the
room I see Prabhupada as ordinary in my unloving eyes." or "the murti
looks like an idol." SDG-Journal and Poems volume 2 1985-86. Or some of
his comments in GuruReform notebook about Prabhupada having committed
offence or his consulting with Narayana Maharaja [gaudiya mutt//////1]
etc.etc Ask your lawyer if you can bring this up and sue him for severe
emotional pain and distress caused by nonsenscial offensive writings.

Yours in the service of the non-molester,non-homosex,eternally pure and
perfect parampara and its current bona fide acarya Srila Prabhupada
[whom we're now encouraging the RuruCollie-ela 'children' to blaspheme
VERY NOMINALLY before the world,is it sanat?!...]

your servant,
Yasoda nandana das

209 336 2358

P.S. Kindly offer my humble obeisances to your chaste and devoted
wife, Linda.