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VOLUME 11

Reply to Urdhvaga dasa.

 

 
VOLUME 11 CONTENTS
 

1. Reply to Urdhvaga dasa.

 
2. BUT COWS CAN go-BRAHMANYA  TO HELL,is it not?
 
3. WOW you are such a faithfoul dog. Reply to GONAPOTTY dasa (Ganapati dasa)
 
4. OSTRICH DASANUDAS  
 "Pishima told me of the plot to poison him (Prabhupada) as early as 1976 in Mayapur."
 
5. OKapindra das AGAIN reveals FULL FAITHLESSNESS in the Order of the Spiritual Master: "If you PREACH  what Prabhupada  said, THAT WILL BRING DEFAMATION!"
 
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1. Reply to Urdhvaga dasa.
 
Dear Urdhvaga prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances.
 
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
 
Thankyou for your letter.
 
I'm sorry to hear that you are unable to follow my letters and find them a bit strange and weird. Please clarify which particular statements etc. you cannot follow and perhaps i can explain them again for you.
 
As well as presenting various quotes and letters which clearly show that Srila Prabhupada was in NO WAY WHATSOEVER RESPOSIBLE for the terrible abuses suffered by the gurukula children, we have also made the following points about the blasphemy of Srila Prabhupada:
 
* Those who try to defame Srila Prabhupada are the lowest creatures (see quote1 below)
 
* Those who are silent after hearing this blasphemy are accepting or agreeing with this. (see quote 2)
 
* Those who are blaspheming directly by words or by remaining silent are sure to be destroyed. They will suffer life after life because of this. (see quote 3)
 
* Those persons who hear this blasphemy and take no action against it will be put into hellish life perpetually. (see quote 4)
 
* This attempt to defame Srila Prabhupada is an extremely severe offense. (see quote 5)
 
*Those persons like Puranjana dasa who preach that this blasphemy is very nominal (or those who support this view) are envious of the scriptures and of the existence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Puranjana attemps to refute the scriptural authority with his mental concoction. He thinks himself independent and powerful in every action. If he has an enemy like Sanat dasa or Mukunda dasa who might check the advancement of his sensual activities, (sitting in tamalts seat) he makes plans to cut him down by his own power. He is sending himself and others into various demoniac species of life (see quote 6)
 
* A genuine devotee should become angry and act like fire against the offenders when Krsna or His pure devotee Srila Prabhupada is blasphemed (see quote 7)
 
* Isgone leaders, their followers, turley and all other blasphemers are adherents of Kamsa. Their only business is to create enmity with Srila Prabhupada and his followers. Such activities will only reduce the duration of their lives. These demons have accelerated this process by their world wide defamation of Srila Prabhupada and have now invited their deaths as soon as possible. The result of persecuting Srila Prabhupada and his followers is not only untimely death. An offense at the lotus feet of His Divine Grace is a greater offense than that committed at the lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Thus this godless civilization will become the source of all calamities or nuclear destruction. (see quote 8)
 
* This attempt to ilegally take Srila Prabhupada's assets (Laxmi) by isgone leaders and now also Turley and the other Ravana's is going to be the cause of the next war and world disaster. (see quote 9)
 
* Devotees should take a defamation case against Turley etc. for their blasphemy and another sastric based case against isgone for child abuse and Srila Prabhupada's murder, book changing etc. with genuine ex Gurukuka children who don't blame Srila Prabhupada. (see quote 10)
 
* If there is offensive behaviour to the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada we may become like Nrsinghadeva and punish the evil doers and blasphemers severely. (see quote 11)
 
* lf these blasphempers who are extremely offensive, like isgone and turley and co. are killed by the grace of the Lord, that will be good for them, because if they live they will commit such offenses at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada again and again. (see quote 12)
 
* Srila Prabhupada should not be disrespected under any circumstances. (see quote 13)
 
Your servant Mukunda dasa.
 
 
P.S. WE DO NOT SAY WE WANT TO KILL ALL THE GURUKULA CHILDREN. THIS IS PURANJANA'S FANATICAL RHETORIC. SASTRA STATES THAT THOSE WHO BLASPHEME A PURE DEVOTEE WILL BE PUNISHED ALONG WITH ALL THOSE WHO HEAR IT AND DO NOTHING. THOSE WHO SAY THIS IS FANATICAL TALK, ARE DISCARDING SCRIPTURAL INJUNCTIONS AND ACTING WHIMSICALLY (B.G. 16.23). ANY THREATS THESE BLASPHEMERS ARE FEELING ARE COMING FROM THE SASTRA NOT SANAT OR MUKUNDA. I HOPE THIS IS CLEAR ! 
 
 
 
QUOTES
 
QUOTE 1
 
The argument offered by Sati is that a person who vilifies a great personality is the lowest of all creatures. (S.B. 4.4.17)
 
 
QUOTE 2
 
If we remain silent, then whatever he says, that means we are accepting.
 
(Discussion about Guru Maharaji August 13, 1973, Paris)
 
 
QUOTE 3
 
"One who blasphemes a Vaisnava cannot be protected by anyone. Even if a person is as strong as Lord Siva, if he blasphemes a Vaisnava, he is sure to be destroyed. This is the verdict of all sastras. If one does not care for the verdict of the sastras and dares blaspheme a Vaisnava, he suffers life after life because of this."
 
(S.B.5.10.25)
 
 
QUOTE 4
 
One who hears blasphemy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His devotees should immediately take action or should leave. Otherwise he will be put into hellish life perpetually. There are many such injunctions. Therefore as a regulative principle one should not be unfavorable toward the Lord but always favorably inclined toward Him.
 
(S.B. 7.1.26)
 
 
QUOTE 5
 
"O sinful person, envious of pure devotees, I shall not deliver you! Rather, I shall have you bitten by these germs for many millions of years.
 
                             PURPORT
 
We should note herein that all our sufferings in this material world, especially from disease, are due to our past sinful activities. And of all sinful activities, actions directed against a pure devotee out of sheer envy are considered extremely severe. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu wanted Gopala Capala to understand the cause of his suffering. Any person who disturbs a pure devotee engaged in broadcasting the holy name of the Lord is certainly punished like Gopala Capala. This is the instruction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. As we shall see, one who offends a pure devotee can never satisfy Caitanya Mahaprabhu unless and until he sincerely regrets his offense and thus rectifies it.
 
(C.C. Adi Lila 17.51)
 
 
This brahmana, Gopala Capala, wanted to defame Srivasa Thakura by proving that he was actually a sakta, or a worshiper of Bhavani, the goddess Durga, but was externally posing as a Vaisnava.
 
(C.C. Adi Lila 17.37-38)
 
 
 
QUOTE 6
 

TRANSLATION: Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demon becomes envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated in his own body and in the bodies of others, and blasphemes against the real religion.
 
PURPORT: A demoniac person, being always against God's supremacy, does not like to believe in the scriptures. He is envious of both the scriptures and of the existence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This is caused by his so-called prestige and his accumulation of wealth and strength. He does not know that the present life is a preparation for the next life. Not knowing this, he is actually envious of his own self, as well as of others. He commits violence on other bodies and on his own. He does not care for the supreme control of the Personality of Godhead because he has no knowledge. Being envious of the scriptures and the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he puts forward false arguments against the existence of God and refutes the scriptural authority. He thinks himself independent and powerful in every action. He thinks that since no one can equal him in strength, power, or in wealth, he can act in any way and no one can stop him. If he has an enemy who might check the advancement of his sensual activities, he makes plans to cut him down by his own power.
 
 
TRANSLATION:Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, are cast by Me into the ocean of material existence, into various demoniac species of life.
 
(B.G. 16.18-19)
 
 
QUOTE 7
 
The point is that one should be ready to tolerate all insults to one's own self, but when Krsna or His pure devotee is blasphemed, a genuine devotee becomes angry and acts like fire against the offenders
 
(NOI Mantra 1)
 
 
 
QUOTE 8
 
Thus being advised by the demoniac ministers, Kamsa, who was from the very beginning the greatest rascal, decided to persecute the brahmanas and Vaisnavas, being entrapped by the shackles of all-devouring, eternal time. He ordered the demons to harass all kinds of saintly persons, and then he entered his house. The adherents of Kamsa were all influenced by the modes of passion as well as illusioned by the modes of ignorance, and their only business was to create enmity with saintly persons. Such activities can only reduce the duration of life. The demons accelerated the process and invited their deaths as soon as possible. The result of persecuting saintly persons is not only untimely death. The act is so offensive that the actor also gradually loses his beauty, his fame and his religious principles, and his promotion to higher planets is also checked. Driven by various kinds of mental concoctions, the demons diminish all kinds of welfare. An offense at the lotus feet of the devotees and brahmanas is a greater offense than that committed at the lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Thus a godless civilization becomes the source of all calamities.
 
(Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Fourth Chapter of Krsna, "Kamsa Begins His Persecutions.")
 
 
QUOTE 9
 
 Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-guna mano-rathenasati dhavato bahih. Mano-rathena, by mental platform. Ravana thought that "I shall enjoy the Laksmiji of Narayana." But that is not possible. You can think like that. So everyone is after Laksmiji. The Ravana's philosophy. The whole world is after material acquisition, laksmi. Money is called laksmi. Everyone is after money but nobody knows that money can be properly utilized when there is Narayana. Laksmi can stay when there is Narayana. Laksmi-Narayana. You cannot keep Laksmi alone without Narayana, that is not possible. Then you'll be finished, just like Ravana. He wanted to kill Sita without Rama; therefore he was finished with his whole family.
   That is awaiting. The whole world is awaiting that disaster. The America has got atom bomb and Russia has got atom bomb. As soon as there is another war, the whole world will be finished.
So this is the ajnana. Mayaya-apahrta-jnanah. They do not know that we cannot keep Laksmi without Narayana. That is not possible. Laksmi can be kept at home with Narayana, but she cannot leave Narayana. So if you want to enjoy false laksmi, that is different thing.
 
(Bhagavad-gita Lecture 13.14 Bombay, October 7, 1973)
 
 
QUOTE 10
 
Yes, whenever strong and probable false statements are made against ISKCON are made, we can take defamation case against them
 
(S.P Letter to: Jayapataka Vrindaban 28 September, 1976)
 
Gopala Krsna: We want to defeat these people legally because now it's a very big case and every paper in America is covering it. Every paper.
Prabhupada: That means they're feeling pressure. They're feeling pressure. Now we should take proper steps, that's all.
Gopala Krsna: They had a big press conference in which Prof. Sukla spoke up...
Prabhupada: Hm. He has written very nicely.
Gopala Krsna: Ramesvara said he got up and he said "How can... You are insulting our religion..."
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes, better that the Indians (NOTE: Genuine followers of Srila Prabhupada) should combine and they should bring a case against these people.
Gopala Krsna: Yes.
Prabhupada: And then it will be alright. That this is, Krsna consciousness movement is genuine, (NOTE: The real ISKCON with Srila Prabhupada at the center as the spiritual master is genuine) and these people are trying to insult us. Bring a defamation case against these persons.
Gopala Krsna: I think the best thing is to mobilise all the Indians in America because every country...
Prabhupada: Yes, that I have already suggested, that they should take signature from all Indians that this is genuine Indian cultural movement and it a great fortune for Indians. They were bereft of their own culture and now we have got this culture again. The Ratha-yatra is going on, we are so much enlivened. In this way they should file petition.
                       
(S.P.Room Conversation on New York court case  November 2, 1976, Vrindaban)
 
 
 
QUOTE 11

If you are always remembering Him by your activities and seeing Krishna everywhere, even in the heart of the demonic persons, then anger will never overcome you, being purified of all false pride. But occasionally if there is good reason, you may have to become angry just to chastise the evil doers and blasphemers. We have seen that Lord Caitanya once nearly killed Jaghai and Madhai for their offenses to His devotee, so like that, if there is offensive behavior to the pure devotees you may become like Nrsinghadeva and punish them severely.

(S.P. Letter Niranjan, 8/29/72)

 

QUOTE 12

TRANSLATION: When Lord Brahma heard everything from the demigods and the members who had attended the sacrifice, he replied: You cannot be happy in executing a sacrifice if you blaspheme a great personality and thereby offend his lotus feet. You cannot have happiness in that way.
 
                            
PURPORT: Lord Brahma explained to the demigods that although Daksa wanted to enjoy the results of fruitive sacrificial activities, it is not possible to enjoy when one offends a great personality like Lord Siva. It was good for Daksa to have died in the fight because if he had lived he would have committed such offenses at the lotus feet of great personalities again and again. According to Manu's law, when a person commits murder, punishment is beneficial for him because if he is not killed he might commit more and more murders and therefore be entangled in his future lives for having killed so many persons. Therefore the king's punishment of a murderer is appropriate. lf those who are extremely offensive are killed by the grace of the Lord, that is good for them. ln other words, Lord Brahma explained to the demigods that it was good for Daksa to have been killed.
 
(S.B. 4.6.4)
 

QUOTE 13

Lord Brahma said: O best of the demigods, unfortunately, because of madness resulting from your material opulence, you failed to receive Brhaspati properly when he came to your assembly. Because he is aware of the Supreme Brahman and fully in control of his senses, he is the best of the brahmanas. Therefore it is very astonishing that you have acted impudently toward him.

                             PURPORT

   Lord Brahma recognized the brahminical qualifications of Brhaspati, who was the spiritual master of the demigods because of his awareness of the Supreme Brahman. Brhaspati was very much in control of his senses and mind, and therefore he was a most qualified brahmana. Lord Brahma chastised the demigods for not properly respecting this brahmana, who was their guru. Lord Brahma wanted to impress upon the demigods that one's guru should not be disrespected under any circumstances. When Brhaspati entered the assembly of the demigods, they and their king, Indra, took him for granted. Since he came every day, they thought, they did not need to show him special respect. As it is said, familiarity breeds contempt. Being very much displeased, Brhaspati immediately left Indra's palace. Thus all the demigods, headed by Indra, became offenders at the lotus feet of Brhaspati, and Lord Brahma, being aware of this, condemned their neglect. In a song we sing every day, Narottama dasa Thakura says, caksu-dana dila yei, janme janme prabhu sei: the guru gives spiritual insight to the disciple, and therefore the guru should be considered his master, life after life. Under no circumstances should the guru be disrespected, but the demigods, being puffed up by their material possessions, were disrespectful to their guru. Therefore Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.17.27) advises, acaryam mam vijaniyan navamanyeta karhicit. na martya-buddhyasuyeta: the acarya should always be offered respectful obeisances; one should never envy the acarya, considering him an ordinary human being.

(S.B. 6.7.21)

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Urdhvaga@aol.com <Urdhvaga@aol.com>
To: PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk <PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: prabhupada@connect4free.net <prabhupada@connect4free.net>
Date: 21 July 2000 23:20
Subject: Open letter to Mukunda dasa

Open letter to Mukunda dasa
(from Urdhvaga, July 21, 2000)

Dear Mukunda Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP. Hari Bol Great Soul. First I would like to thank you very much
for your newsletters and all those nice pictures you have send me. Especially
I liked how you defeated Iskcons false GBC/Gurus clones and bogus Sannyasis
with your Vedabase quotes. That was really ecstatic. Thank you for exposing
the bogus elements in our society.

In one of your newsletters you wrote:  „The demoniac have killed our eternal
father Srila Prabhupada and his ISKCON family for the satisfaction of their
ambitions. There is nothing astonishing about this for the demoniac can kill
anyone for their nefarious ambitions. They are now in the process of killing
him again by changing the divine message contained in his original
transcendental books.

We cannot reform Iskcons demoniac elements, and we might not have the power
to start a new mission, but we just have to work together to keep Srila
Prabhupada in the center as the Acarya, and see to it that his original pre
1977 Books are printed and distributed."

I only can say WOW, dandavats to your feet, prabhu!

Dear Mukunda, I am eternally thankful to you for defending Srila Prabhupada
and his books which are systematically being perverted by Jayadvaita demon.
That you are even selling THE COMPLETE SRILA PRABHUPADA TAPE LIBRARY ON
COMPACT DISK + FREE VEDABASE for all devotees  is a very great service, for
which I am indebted to you for the rest of my life. Please send me those CD’s.

I do not know you personally, but judging from you newsletters and your
selling the PRABHUPADA TAPE LIBRARY ON COMPACT DISK to all devotees, it seems
that you had a very high realisation and understanding of Srila Prabhupada
and his philosophy.

Unfortunately I have to say: "had", because your letter nowadays sound a bit
strange and weird, which I am unable to follow. I do not know what has
happened to you, but somehow you completely changed nowadays. You even talk
in a different language now. You do not sound yourself any more. It is like
you have become an other person? Even the wording in your letters do not
sound like you anymore. Don’t you notice yourself? What has happened to you?
With a straw in my mouth I beg you to please wake up and become your real
self again.

What bewilders me the most is that such a nice devotee as yourself are
starting to attack Srila Prabhupadas children of the second generation which
does not become you., behove you. You are overstepping your competence by
denouncing them. You are not their judge. Sometimes children become
ungrateful to their fathers out of various reasons, which you do not
understand, and which is observed even in material life, but still the father
loves his children, always ready to forgive them. So please do not commit
offences to Srila Prabhupadas guru-kula children. Just leave it up to the
father to decide. Better you leave Prabhupadas children alone and concentrate
on Iskcons bogus leadership as you have done so nicely in the past.

In your latter dated: 02.07.99, you wrote: „Srila Prabhupada’s
transcendental books are his loud chanting of the holy name. Such loud
chanting is giving the people of the world Harinama diksa. The ritvik acarya
system should continue for the rest of the golden age to formalise such mass
initiation. This is the verdict of Sadhu, Sastra and Guru."

If you just would please concentrate on the ritvik problem, the poisoning of
Iskcons founder, the book changes   and Prabhupada, original works etc., that
is already so much service you are doing. Please stick to that. That is your
natural service, which you successfully have taken up already. Expose Iskcons
demoniac leadership, the poisoners, the book-changers, the child-molesters,
the perpetrators, and all those other countless Iskcon criminals, not the
victims of their 23 year terror regime. Please come to your senses and become
the old Mukunda from before, not the new weirdo, talking in a different
tongue, which no body understands.

Let me remind you of your own words: „We cannot reform the demoniac, neither
have we the power to start a new mission, we just have to work to keep Srila
Prabhupada in the center as the Acarya. Therefore let us work together to
give the other fallen souls a chance to achieve their ultimate goal of life,
which is the association of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Prabhupada. Even though we may have to face many dangers, let us fight to
save Srila Prabhupada's pure instructions, which are no different than
himself.

May Lord Krishna protect you always, and may Srila Prabhupada give you
continued inspiration and guidance.
Please know me to be your fried and well-wisher, no offence was ever meant to
your person.

Your servant, Urdhvaga das

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2. BUT COWS CAN go-BRAHMANYA  TO HELL,is it not?
 
Thanks for the letter, Mukunda prabhu; sorry to sound so worried [about you]. 
You may feel drained by what you recently wrote,i.e.. accomplished,but i
FEEL FILLED UP WITH NECTAR! Drained is a material thing except now that
you're draining the witches' blood by foot pounding,THAT is a spiritual
draining!!!

But DO take it easy until you feel restored;also listen to the taped
court proceedings [of USv.ISGONE,Satsheshit,et al],and ENJOY!
"YES,sanat is militant worshissapher of Asatsvapishammy--just see the
distortion of PudPADA,he's obviously guilty w/TamaltPADA in misleading
the rurucoolies in their wrongly blaming SP for their abuses,just see
how he's proving it by shooting his spleen to convince them that i'm
supporter of the Devil--although i have so much testimoney from Pudpada
himself to the absolute contrary {for many years!!!}--but he clearly
reveals his complicity in being a main party to evoke hatred for SP in
coolies,etc......

Anyway, I have so many other nectar recordings,you won't believe! [Esp.
where 'devotees' at GitughNiggardly steal my sign and the police catch
them [with my video of the crime]  and oblige them to pay me $200
recompense....Also,my friend Rasala and i did an EIGHT DAY protest in
front of GN i 1998 summer,and i have footage of some amazing revelations
[confessions] of demon-ruru-supporters....and etc...

As far as your friend urdwagga's stupid letter,these people are stupid
fools because they could care less  for instance about Srila
Prabhupada's COWS; just like this bathead, Pudface,he's clearly ENVIOUS of
the cows,and our sincere,selfless work to help them [find out pud's
statements in this regard] Prabhupada and Krishna ALWAYS put the cows
first as entities needing care and love,otherwise what's our
philosophy,with Lord Krishna being a transcendental Cowherd?! Cow can
never 'grow up' like kulies,brahmanas,etc. They ALWAYS need our
superntendence and protection. But these foools  ghouls and demonpadas
not only have missed this point since Sulocana FIRST exposed them,now
they OPENLY decry--and are envious of--our 9 year work to rescue
Prabhupada's cows from the asuras  [who are none other than THEM.....]
you see?  If the movement and its assets,like farms,GN,etc.  is handed
[haphazardly] to the demoancoolies,the cows' fate will be most precarious.
They may be slaughtered...
BUT THIS FACT THESE DEMONES DON'T CONSIDER

And aside from the VERY NOMINAL DEFAMATION of Srila Prabhupada, the cows
are THE ONLY important issue now,since they are still at risk! As we've
seen,the 'kulies' have grown up and ARE ABLE to take care of
themselves, isn't it??? As children they were defenseless,(as we all
were),and just see how their parents APPARENTLY did NOTHING TO HELP THEM
WHEN THEY WERE IN A "DEFENSELESS" STATE, but now it's up to them to 'do
something',so where is question of defenseless??????

But the cows ARE still defenseless and at great risk, still need our
compassion. But where s pud's,urdvaggas,etc. compassion for these
Krishna-loved,defenseless living entities?????????????????????

ITS NILL.  Therefore they are worse than demones, worse than
raksasa, that's the verdict of sastra,not me. Look at Prthu M. chapter in
S.BHag.Sastra says this great soul AND ALL VAISNAVAS  are "devotees of
cows".. And pudemone to this day deprecates and atacks our selfless
service to the Vaisnava cause. What punishent awaits these cowkillers
only Yamaraja knows!.....

As far as Urdhvaga's comments about 'kulies' this is also specious
reasoning, because this case is brought by what, 50 or something
rurucoolies? Out of thousands,a small handful are openly demonic and
blasphemous of Prabhupada,as taught them first by tamaltPADA and later
by Uh-parents,now by RochashaPADA and PADAtamalt... So they had poor
training in the PADATamaltRavinedraRochashaaFord ApaSampradaya,now they
are openly envious of Cows,brahmanas,Srila
Prabhupada,SULOCANAN,etc....[along with their teachers,pita na
sasyata,reefermores,et al]

But the problem here,is also that they ARE NOT CHILDREN ANYMORE,and they
WILL be fully judged for their ADULT misappropriation of energy in
Kali-personified's service,that is the danger. And worse for them,is
that Kali is allowing them to spread their poison to millions of
innocent partis,thus endangering the planet,and threatening to send
millions of NEW APARADHIS to hell for plenty of teethgnashing Currtana.
Sasra says this. If EVEN ONE person hears your blasphemy they are as
good as dead SPIRITUALLY,so with modern tech they have dexterously
spread their venomous vibration around the world,and now these
offenders,bysastric declaration,will have to suffer their karma millions
upon millions of times. Then,for allowing the cows [Go-praja] to GO to
hell,we cannot even begin to imagine what hell there will be to pay back
for such willful,purposeful and intentional neglect....like i said to
PudPADA: 'read Sd's 'Tome' and ....START WORRYING!"

Pud is the main one talking about 'compassion for kulies',nurture and
luvvy dove them,etc. [till we vomit?],but he shows by such [pseudo]
sentiment,that he's FULLY CULPABLE for plight of cows,because THEY ARE
INDEED DEFENSLESS AND NEEDING OUR
LOV.COMPASSION.NURTURING.PROTECTION.RESCUE,even now,during the
coolie-law case. but PudPADA is openly derisive and envious of the cows.

So these unrepentent fools have marked themselves for Spirtual DEATH,by
Sastric Decree by their ongoing hypocrisy and envy of the Cows and
Supreme Brahmana [Prabhupada] Who Himself once took close care of a Cow
in india [find THIS Conv. and quotes,VERY REVEALING!!]

But their "IDENTIFYING" SP as culprit in their combined attack on
Religion Personified has already killed them,hence they have lost any
intelligence and good qualities,and now pereive your
legitimate,rational,logical and scripturally-backed message as
'tongue-talking'...but,HEY! Even the Christians say you have to SPEAK IN
TONGUES before you can be saved,so ,so be it!!  Let's talk continuously
in Prabhupada-Prthu-Pariksit-Yamaraja-BullDharma-Tongue until these
people are fully taken to task by Kali [goddess Kali smashing KaliPADA's
thick,stool-drenched skulls?]

'They' keep squealling 'they threatening s,they threatening us!!' but
it's ludicrous. Sastra, hundreds of them ARE threatening their IGNOREance
with Light and Knowledge. THAT is the REAL&TRUE  threat,and we'll be
happy to explain this to the public when time arises,

We know for certain that telling people that blasphemers of Religion
Personified should all be put to death [by a pious Gov't Executive head]
will bring love and appreciation for Srila PrabhupadaDeva and His bona
fide Govinda's Movement,and allowing these VERY NOMINAL attacks is the
worst in cowardiceand BoatholeTamaltPADA-worshisssp,bringing society to
brink of destruction.

So 'we' threaten with sastra,and leave actual killing of severe
offenders to Goddess Kali [under Krishna's superVISION ]  and to the
Government--which we hope to convince should put
Tamalt Rochshashaford PADA Hickey Ravinedra to death for their venemous and
unfounded attacks on Krishna's Pure Representative,and their hellish
assault on ALL of humanity... This is our mission!  SATYAM PARAM
DHIMAHI.....

om tat sat  

sanat d ass
 
P.S. their 'care' for cows is nill,because--like
TKagey,Ravinedra,SatsHeshit,et al--there's NO POWER.MONEY.FAME,etc. in
it for them;oh,but the coolies GET ALL COMPASSION [even though they are
25-35 year old adults,most of them themsleves NOW ABUSING THEIR OWN
CHILDREN!!!]

Yes,we FEEL for coolies,because this is our way to kick on our enemies
[whose seat we want] pretend to show compassion for the public's
sake,and eventually get the assets,etc of movement.

BUT COWS CAN go-BRAHMANYA  TO HELL,is it not? [they're VERY
NOMINAL,isn't it?!...]
 
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3. WOW you are such a faithfoul dog. Reply to GONAPOTTY dasa (Ganapati dasa)
 
Your dead head guru has already admitted he's compromised and not done things properly, and still you defend him. WOW you are such a faithfoul dog.
 
Mukunda dasa
 
 
Puranjana dasa: So Turley will do some major harassment, but he is not my paid up lawyer, so I cannot control every move he makes. It is stupid of you to think he will, and it is stupid of you to think I should now attack this man when he needs my testimony for the molest charges, and that is the only way these molest charges will be addressed legally.....Why do I have to compromise with Turley or Nityananda to get things done? Where are the "real warriors" that you infer should do the job? And if I did not do it properly, why didn't you?
 
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4. OSTRICH DASANUDAS  
 "Pishima told me of the plot to poison him (Prabhupada) as early as 1976 in Mayapur."
 
In a letter publised on PADA on 24/7/00 called DON'T BE A FENCE SITTER Dasanudas says:
 
"Those who criticize devotees like Puranjana and Pratyatosa can't seem to understand that without them, the abuses would still be going on while the majority of devotees look the other way. Ostrich philosophy"
 
In a letter he wrote to Sanat prabhu in June, he admits he witnessed firsthand the scheming and treachery of the false gurus.He says Prabhupada's sister Pishima told him of their plot to poison Prabhupada as early as 1976 in Mayapur. Mr. Ostrich Dasanudas has only just stopped looking the other way, AFTER 24 YEARS !!! Now tamalt and co.'s seats are becoming free, up pops this Ostrich, eager to join the other Jackals.
 
Mukunda dasa
 
 
---Original Message-----
From: Bhaktisiddhartha Dasanudas <dasanudas@mindspring.com>
To: Stephen Voith <SLVforACBSP@webtv.net>
Date: 16 June 2000 03:52
Subject: RE: GBC suspects should resign
 
Dear Sanat Prabhu,

I am a direct disciple of Srila Prabhupada who was present in India when he disappeared, and witnessed firsthand the scheming and treachery of the false gurus. His sister Pishima told me of the plot to poison him as early as 1976 in Mayapur. Therefore I certainly appreciate and share your sentiments
regarding the criminal mentality of the GBC.
 
Your servant,

Dasanudas
 
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5. OKapindra das AGAIN reveals FULL FAITHLESSNESS in the Order of the Spiritual Master: "If you PREACH  what Prabhupada  said, THAT WILL BRING DEFAMATION!"
 
Whoaa!!! another demone for the fire...

Yes OKapindra das AGAIN reveals FULL FAITHLESSNESS in the Order of the
Spiritual Master: "If you PREACH  what Prabhupada  said,THAT WILL BRING
DEFAMATION!"


Same thing he said to me at 1996 Wratha Yatra when he chastised me for
wearing a shirt that said: "QUESTION BOGUS AUTHORITY"...

yes,a bogus authority like sri otay Kapindra MUST be questioned. Now
Prabhupada fully rejects this pseudo devotee's affiliation w/HDG,and if
we're soon in New Yawk,we will stand outside his
hellhole,ANTIPrabhupadaVani demonnest and announce to everybody what a
pretender,hypocrite,supporter of Tamaltpada rascal he is.

We kick on OKapindreck's demonic face. THIS will bring excellent PR...

Just like the excellent result we got from standing outside the
Courthouse in Ithaca,NY on May 14,1996--during our Prabhupada-arranged
[demonehead deranged] court session w/ISGONESats he
shitface,RobinBrainDEADROTWILERRUURUU Svapoop pabhu,and we sang VERY
LOUDLY:


"Jaya Prabhupada,boots on SatheDUPEDyas face,he's a
childmolesting,cockroach ruru,lowest of the human race,Satshedupd let
Druva das be killed by surli/murlivadaka,a nother demon rakshasha,and we
kick on his demonic face,and what better time or place...Hoddy Bol,Hoddy
Bol,kick on the Isgone rurushole...!!! " and etc.

And their lawyer tried vehemently to bring more charges,and they made
further asses of themselves,and we got the Judge's approval,even the
Prosecutor,Linda Falkson [who represented THEM] ,turned on  [ie.
AGAINST]   the ruru side [the Kapindra side]  and agreed w/the Judge
[Honorable Judge Judith Rossiter] that your boys were liars,frauds,child
molestors and demons. And they agreed that Prabhupada's statements of
KICK ON FACE were AND ARE bona fide religious statements protected by
U.S. Constitution,and that obviously NO ONE DESERVED A FACE KICKING MORE
THAN THE ASSURAS IN THE ITHACA CITY COURTROOM THAT DAY who dared argue
against the Holy Vedic Scriptures... so we brought deserved Fame to
Prabhupada,and got the excellent concommitant reward of exposing the
CHEATS--NO bad PR-backlash by staunchly following GURU and kicking on
the basphemers ugky gesichts...is it clear??


This is all well documented, in as much as will be well documented--when
the turdface case is FINISHED [by the Supreme and insuperable will of
Lord Sri Krishna] that your side is the washed-up tamaltPADA assura side
that blasphemed a Spotless Personality of Religion and encouraged other
ADULTS -not children--to spread your sheer envy throughout the three
worlds. Yes,your side will certainly go to hell [after goddess Durga
pounds your face into the Dallass dirt-or wherever She chooses to
chastise you],  AND OUR SIDE WILL GET ETERNAL BENEFIT and GOOD
REPUTE--as arranged by Lord Sri Krishna--FOR SELFLESSLY AND FEARLESSLY
DEFENDING THE glorious name and fame  of the Supreme Personality of
Servitor Godhead,Srila PrabhupadaDeva,the Spiritual PRECEPTOR OF THE
DEMIGODS,whose Supreme Spiritual Master,as the prayer reads
CLEARLY,NEVER TOLERATED ANY STATEMENT WHICH IS AGAINST THE VAISNAVA
TACHINGS AS ENUNCIATED BY SRILA RUPA GOSVAMI PRABHUPADA,and who [Srila
Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, REPRESENTATIVE OF BALARAMAJI, will personally
come from the spiritual world at the appropriate time--as He did
w/GourGorilla Shammy in Mayapura a few years back on His Advent Day--and
SLAY ALL THE BLASPHEMERS of His bona fide Representative [and ALL
Saints]
Christ also said that when you kill one Saint the blood of ALL the
previous acaryas who were harassed,tortured,blasphemed,'killed',etc.
will simultaneously be on your demonic hands. Is this clear? When you
experience this fact, IT WILL BECOME VERY CLEAR INDEED !!

That's a fact,one you will find out soon enuf,because this is stated by
Infallible Sastra,our preaching same will bear excellent,super excellent
results,and yours will be identical AND WORSE to what Curt
MOUSEart,Rabidogururu,SDoG,and friends embarrassingly experienced in
Ithaca on that beautiful [ruru-bashing] day in May,1996...
[we actually became famous in Ithaca]
and demonekon got what it deserved YOUR DEMONEKON<IS IT CLEAR?? iSGONE
IS A FOURLETTER WORD IN ithaca,NY,but when Iskcon in Exile students and
well-wishers of Prabhupada's Movement come on the streets for
Prabhupada-Nityananda-Balarama Krtana and prasadam distribution,people
cheer and throw laxmi as they walk or drive by...

Thus preaching the absolute and UNCHANGED  message of Prabhupada-Sastra
Personified ALWAYS kicks so nicely on the raksasaPADAs that people
instantly feel transcendental bliss upon such contemplation..

And just wait till my next face=thrashing expose in NYShitty!  you ain't
seen nothing yet.

your humble and non-threatening [but sin seer-promising dog-brother,
sanat,the irascibull rasa cool