Srila Prabhupada – 'Bedside Conversations 1977'
(Vrindavana, India - 8th & 10th November)
Digitally re-mastered by Bhakta Paul from a cassette found at Bhaktivedanta Manor UK in 1988.
symptoms of a sadhu are that he is tolerant, merciful and friendly
to all living entities.
He has no enemies, he is peaceful, he abides by the scriptures, and all his characteristics are sublime.”
(Srimad Bhagavatam 3.25.21)
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01: “How is the climate outside?” (2:30) Transcript
02: “Don’t keep me locked up” (21:39) Transcript
03: “The poison’s going down” (2:11) Transcript
04: “Is the poison in the milk?” (10:02) Transcript
05: “Come, let us take the risk” (5:50) Transcript
06: “Like a desire tree” (4:55) Transcript
07: “Make an experiment” (13:15) Transcript
08: “Do you have faith?” (1:17) Transcript
09: “You will go one day, that we promise you” (8:28) Transcript
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CLIP01: “Don’t keep me locked up” (0:34) Transcript
CLIP02: “Live by my words” (0:59) Transcript
CLIP03: “The poison’s going down” (0:29) Transcript
CLIP04: “Is the poison in the milk” (0:30) Transcript
CLIP05: “Do it now” (1:01) Transcript
CLIP06: “Like a desire tree” (0:44) Transcript
CLIP07: “Do you have faith?” (0:10) Transcript
CLIP08: “You will go one day, that we promise you” (0:40) Transcript
Reverse Speech Clips by Dhanesvara Dasa
[Track 01] 8/11/77
Tape Section 1 “How is the climate outside?” (2:30)
Prabhupada: How is the climate outside?
Lokanatha: There’s not cold so far. Lucky I came today. It’s good climate.
Hamsaduta: At night it’s a little chilly and in the day it’s very pleasant and warm.
Prabhupada: No, other parts of India.
Lokanatha: Are not. As we go towards the Himalaya it gets cold otherwise up to Delhi and Chandigarh same climate as it is here now. As soon as we go out into the mountains, <this might be but you know who's innocent> it’s very cold. Shivering. As we came to the place, wherever we went the same climate. <i'm not blessed, may i go right out> Same as Vrndavana. It’s a good climate.
Prabhupada: So you come at four, have kirtana. Hmm
[Track 02] 8/11/77
Tape Section 2 “Don’t keep me locked up” (21:39)
I wish that you GBC manage very nicely
<just can't beat it>
and consider I am dead
<dead man> and let me try to
travel <the worst was just you kill>
all the tirthasthana. Without any
respons <obstinate argue>
ibility. If I become recovered
from this malady I shall come back and then I shall die in, what is it when the
dead body is there, let them bring to Mayapura and Vrndavana. I am thinking in
this way. Bring little medicine
<we should'nt be killed>
and no medicine, little milk, and travel one
place to another and if there is death, what is the lamentation? My age is ripe.
In the open air <aye govinda>
and bullock cart or
<lord, i'll follow> during daytime, eh? Or you can say
semi-suicide, although living what consider me dead for the time. You manage and
nowadays there is in India ample sunshine. So during daytime I shall travel and
nighttime you make a camp under a tree. In this way let me travel all the
tirthas. I am thinking in this way. What is your opinion?
Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada, we promise that we’ll manage everything to the best of our ability.
Prabhupada: No, no, you are managing, I know, but you are all important men and unnecessarily <it is a sin> you are bound up. You cannot go. So Lokanatha party has got some experience and let me go. In India the climate is now good. If I recover, it is very good. You know. So what is the wrong? If I die, then the body will be brought either in Vrndavana or Mayapura, that’s all. And if I live, it will be a great another life. You are all experienced.
Jayapataka: As much as you have trained us, Srila Prabhupada, that is only how much we are experienced. We don’t want that you be burdened any more with material management problems but...
Prabhupada: No, not from that point of view. What is the use of lying down here?
Jayapataka: The kaviraja said...
Prabhupada: Kaviraja may <damn liar> say...
Jayapataka: ...that even that your body is going to, is got a life <we are led> of six to ten years but he said even a healthy cow, if it’s kept locked up inside of a room, then it will deteriorate. (laughs)
Prabhupada: And therefore I say, (laughs) don’t keep me locked up. You do your duty as I have trained you and let me be free and if money required, he’ll come and take <they ask no mercury> and go back again as he is coming to take book.
Prabhupada: They have got experience <can i leave?> Indian, you can go village to village and, arrangement as you may, but it is trouble taken, and I am no longer, you manage. If I live, I can come again. I shall be very glad.
Devotee: Previously it was mentioned that there was some risk in travelling. <hail of arsenic>
Prabhupada: What is that risk? Nowadays there is no risk. What is the risk? Mm?
Devotee: Well from the medical <what could have been the fault> point of view it’s something with the organs or something, <this is in revolt> I don’t know exactly but it’s been considered.
Prabhupada: This is my proposal and...
Jayapataka: That would be after you gained some strength, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Yes. If I (have) free air <i leave; be healthy> and free movement why sunshine (?) and I can come back again in a year.
Jayapataka: You will be translating while you’re <there you all knew that snare> travelling?
Prabhupada: No, yes and no.
Bhavananda: I think it’s good idea, Srila Prabhupada.
Bhavananda: Only factor at this point <said the opposite; very bad> is not to take any unnec <said that in a death, that's bad> essary risk.
Prabhupada: No. As I think free, so I remain. Mm. Then when I am sane man, I shall come back again either Mayapura or Vrndavana or Bombay, any other.
Jayapataka: You would travel by a minibus.
Jayapataka: You would travel by a bus.
Prabhupada: That you think of.
Bhavananda: We will all sit down and discuss the different arrangements that have to be made, plans that have to be made. <the end, it's bad> It’s a very nice idea. Real sannyasa life.
Prabhupada: Yes. Mm. You have tried doctor, kaviraja, medicine, everything. Everything has failed. Now suppose I am taking the risk of death, what is wrong? When the..., I am dead you go India, within India, you go and bring the body either in Mayapura or Vrndavana. Mayapura the land is already there. Vrndavana I think on the gate side, that’s all. That’s wherever you like you’ll do.
Jayapataka: Srila Prabhupada, you commented that when Thakura Bhaktivinoda was put on the gate side that that was no way to respect a Vaisnava.
Jayapataka: So then doesn’t seem proper to put you by the gate.
Prabhupada: No, not by the gate. There is ample land. Or in Mayapura, that will be very nice. Mm.
Jayapataka: This kaviraja assures that by taking little milk frequently during the day...
Prabhupada: I will take milk. Milk is available everywhere. ("devotees" laugh) I shall take little milk and sleep, that’s all. If I live, that’s all right. If I don’t live, that doesn’t matter.
Bhavananda: Very nice program. We can all accompany you at different times of the month.
Prabhupada: Yes. Not very many, but you can come and go back.
Jayapataka: Which holy places you would like to visit, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: India is full of holy places.
Jayapataka: Krsna-lila, Mahaprabhu-lila?
Prabhupada: And gradually you go to Mayapura. Is someone here?
Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.
Bhavananda: He has heard everything.
Jayapataka: By you going to the holy places, you will purify the holy places.
Prabhupada: There are two things, life or death. So if I die where is the wrong? And if there is death, that is natural.
Jayapataka: For you Srila Prabhupada, to be alive <yeah, i laid with love> or to die <yeah, i do snow> is no different because you are in the transcendental position, but for us when you leave the body then we are bereft of your association. So for us it is very unfortunate.
Prabhupada: (indistinct) live by my words, by my training. Hmm. (pause) So you like this idea? Mm?
Hamsaduta: I liked it.
Prabhupada: Who is it?
Adri-dharana: It’s Hamsaduta Maharaja.
Prabhupada: Oh. (pause) Most places you beg from the local place and subsist, otherwise purchase.
Jayapataka: You are very famous, Srila Prabhupada, wherever you go there will be crowds of people to have your darsana.
Prabhupada: So they will see me, I have no objection. I want little milk from them, that’s all. (pause) So far my presence is required (for) management, I think I have bequeathed, properly you can manage. Hm. It is to be admitted failure, the so-called <lord will save> medical treatment, failure. (pause)
Jayapataka: I’ll be back to say that you defy all medical laws. Sometimes you become very weak and sometimes you become immediately strong.
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Tape Section 3 “The poison’s going down” (2:11)
We should begin the parikrama in Vrndavana.
Bhavananda: Because quite honestly, Srila Prabhupada, I think most of us are very worried. If you go off down the road and send us all back to our different assignments, we would not be able to serve with our full attention, knowing that our beloved father and spiritual guide was in such weak condition. So if we begin in Vrndavana, we’re all here now, we can see so that we know what arrangements to make for the future when you want to leave.
Prabhupada: Hm. You make me flat. (pause)
“Devotee 1”: (whispered) Push real hard(?), it's going down..
“Devotee 2”: (giggles)
“Devotee 1”: ..The poison's going down.
“Devotee 2”: (holds back laughter, then coughs twice to regain composure)
[Track 04] 10/11/77
Tape Section 4 “Is the poison in the milk?” (10:02)
We heard that Your Divine Grace had a dream that a kaviraja of the
Ramanuja-sampradaya would treat you and bring you back to strength, and this
kaviraja says that in a very short time, following the treatment, you would
regain your strength. Although he hasn’t got all of the medicines yet, but
within a day or two they’ll all be prepared, and he says within fifteen days
you should be quite improved in strength. So far, he seems to have been quite
Prabhupada: No, no, he’s sincere. I’ll drink milk. Whatever strength is obtainable, there will be.
Jayapataka: Like to follow the same treatment, only while travelling.
“Devotee 1”: (snigger) (whispered:) Is the poison in the milk? <the milk not so good>
“Devotee 2”: Mh hhm (affirmitive)
“Devotee 1”: Oh (I see)
Hamsaduta: So we should meet and make a program for going around Vrndavana.
Hamsaduta: You want to begin tomorrow morning? <i don't want him to take it>
Devotee: If Prabhupada travels <i slash the prophet> in a van it would be very bumpy. <need not fear people in heaven> He should have a big bus.
Hamsaduta: Let’s discuss it.
Devotee: A big bus.
Prabhupada: No, no, bus will be not good. Bullock cart.
Bhavananda: Bullock cart.
Jayapataka: That is very bumpy.
Bhavananda: Your Guru Maharaja used to have bullock cart travel from Hulorghat [on the bank of the Ganges in Mayapura] up <but our guru met with arsh (poison)> to the Caitanya Matha. You told me you put a nice mattress down in the back and a cover, and you lay down there. You even told me once to go to Calcutta that way. You lay down, at night; you go little bit, little bit; and in the morning, when you wake up, you’re in Calcutta. (pause)
Prabhupada: Bullock, you get the cow dung.
Tamala Krsna: Cook with it.
Jayapataka: In this part of India it’s very cold now (“devotee” laughs) for Your Divine Grace.
Prabhupada: Underneath the tree it is not cold. ("devotees" snigger)
Tamala Krsna: You sound like you are very determined to go, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: Daytime we expose in the sunshine, (“devotee” laughs) and…
“Devotee ?”: Do it now (whispered).
Prabhupada: ...camp underneath a tree at night. That has to be arranged.
(Bengali with Bhakti-caru—Prabhupada drinks something a few times & seems disturbed) (pause)
Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada, should the devotees take prasadam now?
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Tamala Krsna: It’s about 1:30 now. After taking prasadam we can meet and chalk out a program for parikrama and tirtha-yatra. Is that all right? Okay.
Prabhupada: I thought you have taken.
Tamala Krsna: No, we were all surrounding you, listening very intently to all your instructions.
Jagadisa: Prasadam has been saved for the devotees that are here.
Tamala Krsna: Three o’clock we’ll meet. So we’ll have our meeting, Srila Prabhupada, with Lokanatha also present.
Jagadisa: Satsvarupa also.
Prabhupada: Four o’clock.
Tamala Krsna: Hm? Yes. And then we’ll begin tomorrow. Is that soon enough?
Prabhupada: Yes. Hm.
Tamala Krsna: Should we depart for taking prasadam now, Srila Prabhupada?
Tamala Krsna: Okay.
Prabhupada: Who is attending (me)?
Prabhupada: Upendra is very good attendant.
[Track 05] 10/11/77
Tape Section 5 “Come, let us take the risk” (5:50)
Krsna: We were discussing how to make this parikrama possible, and we’ve
concluded that the best thing was, as we said earlier, to parikrama around
Vrndavana to begin with. And for that purpose we sent Lokanatha Maharaja and
Panca-dravida Maharaja and Trivikrama Maharaja to get a bullock cart ready.
Prabhupada: Hired or purchased?
Tamala Krsna: No, for now just hired, not purchased. Later on we can make a more permanent arrangement, and it can be fixed up as nicely as possible. At the same time while we were meeting, the kaviraja, he also was present. So we inquired from him what he thought about this program, from a medical point of view of course. Spiritually he is in complete agreement. So from a medical point of view, he said that you would not at all be able to withstand this kind of a trip. He said that in a bullock cart, moving around, bumping on the road, you might not be able to live more than a couple of hours. He’s here now. He wanted to speak to you.
Prabhupada: (Hindi) Lokanatha?
Svarupa Damodara: Lokanatha has already gone, Srila Prabhupada.
Hamsaduta: He has gone to Mathura for renting.
Tamala Krsna: He has gone out for renting the bullock cart.
Prabhupada: Oh. (Hindi)
Tamala Krsna: Lokanatha says that the bullock cart could probably go around Vrndavana in about five to six hours, parikraming Vrndavana town.
Prabhupada: Make an experiment. Then we shall decide.
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada said, “Make an experiment. Then we shall decide.”
Jayapataka: What is that experiment?
Tamala Krsna: Jayapataka’s asking what that experiment is, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: Vrndavana parikrama.
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada said, “Vrndavana parikrama.”
Hamsaduta: Prabhupada, does it mean with Your Divine Grace, or we should go alone first and see?
Hamsaduta: Does it mean that Your Divine Grace will come on the experiment, or we should go without Your Divine Grace and experiment?
Jayapataka: See if the road is very rough, if the road is passable by bullock cart the whole way.
Prabhupada: Bullock cart is not smooth.
Tamala Krsna: Bullock cart is not smooth. How would you propose that we go, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Come, let us take the risk.
Tamala Krsna: Go anyway. Let us take the risk.
Svarupa Damodara: As your disciples, Srila Prabhupada, we’re all neophytes. We don’t know what is right and what is wrong. But at the same time we feel that we’re very hopeful that you’ll get strength slowly and slowly. And this morning you were telling us that you get a little strength, so we are hoping every day that “Prabhupada will gain even stronger and be with us for many more years.” So we are taking advice from kaviraja that you take milk more and more, day by day, so that Prabhupada will get stronger. Like kaviraja is suggesting that when Your Divine Grace gets stronger,..
[Track 06] 10/11/77
Tape Section 6 “Like a desire tree” (4:55)
?: ..could sleep in the car..(indistinct).
Lokanatha: The devotees should be prepared to stay overnight there…
Lokanatha: …under the tree. (laughter)
Hamsaduta: We’re supposed to be gosvamis. We have to stay under a tree. Different tree every night. (laughter)
Lokanatha: When we were travelling from Vrndavana to Mayapura we stayed many times. Outside we’d live under the tree. It’s nice.
Bhakti-caru: Yes, but if just one window is open at night, Prabhupada starts feeling cold in spite of the blanket.
Lokanatha: You are making mundane.
Svarupa Damodara: It will be very cold in the early morning hours.
Hamsaduta: We’ll bring the van, and Prabhupada can stay in the van overnight, or we’ll find some place.
Gopala Krsna: (indistinct) All the asramas will be overcrowded… Devotee : thousands and thousands…
Panca-dravida: We can sleep around the van. Prabhupada is like a desire tree. (laughter) He satisfies everybody.
Lokanatha: That cart could be turned into house. (“devotee” laughs) Have bamboo sticks, (“devotees” whispering) cover it with... (indistinct whispering)
Svarupa Damodara: I think Lokanatha Swami should make the route, completely planned out, and the place also where we’re going to picnic so that everything has to be arranged well ahead of time.
Prabhupada: So do it.
Panca-dravida: Yes, we’ll prepare the cart tonight, Srila Prabhupada.
Lokanatha: When we started the bullock cart you said, “Go to the heart of the village,” and we said, “What is this heart?” You said, “Wherever there is well, water, we should camp. We should stay.” That is where we could remain clean.
Prabhupada: That you have experience. I have no experience.
Lokanatha: Maybe you sent me to experience this bullock cart program so that you could...
Lokanatha: ...in future go on bullock cart. (loud laughter)
Prabhupada: For me it is experiment.
Svarupa Damodara: We should also request kaviraja to come along?
Prabhupada: Invite him.
Gopala Krsna: (laughing) He can come in the van.
Panca-dravida: Then it is all decided. You want to take some rest, Srila Prabhupada?
Hamsaduta: Can we have some kirtana, Prabhupada?
Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada, are you finished passing urine? Yes. (kirtana)
[Track 07] 10/11/77
Tape Section 7 “Make an experiment” (13:15)
Krsna: Jaya Srila Prabhupada.
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada said dandavat.
Krsna dasa Babaji: (Bengali with Prabhupada about parikrama)
Prabhupada: Make an experiment.
Svarupa Damodara: What time we start?
Bhavananda: Five o’clock.
Prabhupada: (Bengali) Somebody may go and bring his mala-japa.
Tamala Krsna: Bring him?
Prabhupada: Bring his beads.
Hamsaduta: Where are they?
Prabhupada: Where they are?
Krsna dasa Babaji: At Imlitala. I can go. I can go and come back.
Prabhupada: You can go in car.
Tamala Krsna: We’ll send... Yes, Srila Prabhupada. Your mala are at Imlitala.
Krsna dasa Babaji: Yes. Let me go there.
Tamala Krsna: We’ll take you by car. You can get your mala. You’ll stay overnight here.
Hamsaduta: Someone could pick it up for him in a rickshaw.
Krsna dasa Babaji: I can go.
Tamala Krsna: We’ll bring him by car. He can get his things and bring him back. He’ll get his bedding.
Prabhupada: His bedding and beading. (laughter)
Tamala Krsna: Bedding and beading.
Jagadisa: Bedding and what?
Prabhupada: (Bengali) Is that all right? (Bengali)
Svarupa Damodara: We’re sending someone.
Krsna dasa Babaji: No, no, I’ll go personally.
Tamala Krsna: No, we’ll go with a car. He can come and collect his things.
Prabhupada: So make arrangement.
Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.
Jayapataka: ...that if you feel any pain or experience any difficulty, then we can bring you back.
Prabhupada: Yes. I’m not obstinate. (laughter)
Krsna dasa Babaji: Hare Krsna.
Prabhupada: (Bengali) Sadhu-sanga sadhu-sanga sarva-siddhi... (Bengali) Either the experiment success or... (Bengali) Parikrama. (Bengali)
Hamsaduta: Someone has to take him to Imlitala to get his things.
Krsna dasa Babaji: (Bengali)
(pause/KdB chants japa)
Jayapataka: Should there be kirtana, Srila Prabhupada? You like kirtana?
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Tape Section 8 “Do you have faith?” (1:17)
Prabhupada: Do you have faith?
Devotee ?: I have faith in Srila Prabhupada.
[Track 09] 10/11/77
Tape Section 9 “You will go one day, that we promise you” (8:28)
Tamala Krsna: To go.
Prabhupada: To request not to go?
Krsna dasa Babaji: Yes.
Tamala Krsna: Well, Srila Prabhupada, I’ll tell you, I’m getting so upset sitting in the room upstairs. I mean I just... I was walking around... Two of the devotees told me this road is so bad that if you go on this road, you’re going to be jolted back and forth. The road is terrible. I just can’t understand, Srila Prabhupada, why it has to be tomorrow that we have to go. If anybody wants you to travel, I do. My whole desire is to take you all over the world. I want to take you on parikrama, but why do we have to go when you’re in this condition? I can’t understand it. It just... I was standing outside. This kaviraja, he has worked so hard. He’s so much disappointed. He can’t understand why he... He says that now, today, you’ve taken half a kilo of milk. No mucus has is being produced. No stool is being passed. He says tomorrow he wants to give you a medicine that will begin to build the milk into muscles. He’s going to get you to a point where you can take two kilos of milk a day. And he says very soon you’ll be able to have the strength to actually do parikrama. So why are we throwing everything out the window, that we must go tomorrow? I cannot understand.
Prabhupada: All right.
Bhakti-caru: (laughing) Okay Srila Prabhupada.
Bhavananda: Thank you, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: I cannot refuse all your request.
Tamala Krsna: And we cannot refuse your request. We will take you all over tirtha-yatra, to all the places. Just that you get a little stronger. You’ll be free of all management. You simply go to tirthas and take darsana of all the Deities in India. Everyone will stay in their respective places. They’ll manage. But we just want you to be stronger.
Prabhupada: All right. That will satisfy you? ("devotees" laugh)
Tamala Krsna: Babaji Maharaja also, you also thought that? We did not talk to him. (laughter)
Bhavananda: We were just on our way down the stairs to come and see Your Divine Grace.
Bhavananda: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: You are satisfied?
Bhavananda: Now I am, Srila Prabhupada, yes. (laughter) I was in too much anxiety.
Prabhupada: No, no, I cannot put you in anxiety. ("devotees" laugh) You have done so much. You have suffered in Mayapura so much. I cannot put you in anxiety. So I shall do what you like. (Bengali) Lefthand, righthand. I cannot refuse.
Krsna dasa Babaji: (Bengali)
Tamala Krsna: I mean I’m amazed, Srila Prabhupada. A half a kilo of milk you’ve drank today—no mucus, no stool, and that is wonderful. You could not have done this two weeks ago.
Bhakti-caru: Yes, when I told the kaviräja he got quite amazed. He told me, “Don’t give any more milk. It might...” But Srila Prabhupäda wanted some milk now, so I’ll give.
Prabhupada: Where is kaviraja?
Tamala Krsna: He’s out again getting medicine. I mean, this man, Srila Prabhupada, Adri-dharana says he sits up all night worried about you, thinking, taxing his mind how to give you just what you require.
Bhakti-caru: Yesterday, when I went to call him at 4:30, I saw him sitting on his bed.
Tamala Krsna: All night. He goes in the jungle four, five hours looking for roots, herbs to give you. He’s so sincere.
Prabhupada: So many well-wishers, I cannot refuse. ("devotees" laugh) This is not my business. (Bengali)
Prabhupada: All right. You take Babaji Maharaja. That will be my going. ("devotees" laugh)
Krsna dasa Babaji: Jaya. (laughter)
Tamala Krsna: Yes, the bullock cart will go tomorrow
Tamala Krsna: To Govardhana.
Prabhupada: Yes, other devotees can go. I cannot go.
Tamala Krsna: No, they’ll go on your behalf, but you will go one day. That we promise you. ("devotees" laugh)
"Devotee ?": (under breath) Sati (other “devotees” laugh)
Prabhupada: All right.
Tamala Krsna: Our greatest pleasure will be to take you on tirtha-yatra, Srila Prabhupada. We wanted so much to go with you on that.
Prabhupada: Thank you very much.
Tamala Krsna: Actually, Srila Prabhupada, we’re so much attached to you that you practically drive us to madness sometimes. Tonight we were becoming mad.
Prabhupada: No, no, I shall not do that. Babaji Maharaja? (Bengali) (pause) So you will take bath in Radha-kunda on my behalf. ("devotees" laugh)
Tamala Krsna: We will get you better, Srila Prabhupada, and you will also be able to take bath personally there. We’ll see you get better.
Prabhupada: That’s all right.
Tamala Krsna: Krsna will make all of our words come true, Srila Prabhupada.
Bhakti-caru: (Bengali—brings milk for Prabhupada)
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. (Bengali)
Tamala Krsna: Oh, this kaviraja, we’re so, I mean we’re fortunate to get this sincere man.
Prabhupada: Where is kaviraja?
Tamala Krsna: He’s out getting more, he’s out working, at work.
Bhavananda: Adri, see if he’s here, kaviraja.
Tamala Krsna: As soon as he comes, he can come and see Prabhupada.
You try to trace out the history of the world, you’ll find always persons who are for Krsna or God, they have been persecuted. Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, Haridasa Thakura was caned in twenty-two market places, Prahlada Maharaja was tortured by his father. So there may be such things. Of course, Krsna will protect us. So don’t be afraid. Don’t be afraid if somebody tortures us, somebody teases us. We must go on with Krsna consciousness without any hesitation, and Krsna will give us protect. (Srimad Bhagavatam 7.9.8 Lecture Seattle 21/10/68)
the qualification of sadhu. Sadhu is titiksava, tolerates
all kinds of miserable conditions. He is sadhu. Because this is a place of
miserable condition. A sadhu learns how to tolerate. Sadhu is never
disturbed. Yasmin sthito gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate. A sadhu,
who has got the shelter of Krsna, if he is placed in the severest type of
dangerous condition, he is never disturbed.
Just like Prahlada Maharaja, his father was putting him in so many dangerous conditions, even he was supplying with poison. He knew that “My father has given me poison to drink. All right, let me drink. If Krsna likes, He will save me. I am now put into such dangerous position. I have to drink. Father is giving poison. Who can check?” And such a big powerful Hiranyakasipu. The mother cried, requested... He forced the mother, Prahlada’s mother, “Give your son this poison.” So she begged so much, but he was a rascal demon. “No, you must give.” So the mother knew, the son knew that the rascal father is giving this poison. What can he do, a small child? “All right, let me drink.” Gurunapi duhkhena na vicalyate. He is not agitating. “All right, if Krsna likes, I will live.” This is the position of sadhu. He is not disturbed. Titiksavah. In all circumstances, he is tolerant. That is sadhu. Sadhu does not become disturbed. Titiksavah. At the same time, karunikah. He is himself disturbed, but he is merciful to others.
Just like Jesus Christ. He is being crucified, and still he is merciful: “God, these people do not know what they are doing. Please excuse them.” This is sadhu. He is personally being disturbed by the demons, but still, he is merciful to the general people. They are suffering for want of Krsna consciousness. So even up to the point of death, he is trying to preach Krsna consciousness. “Let the people be benefited. Eh, what is this material body? Even if I am killed, I am not killed. This body is killed, that’s all.” This is sadhu. Titiksavah karunikah. In one side he is tolerant, and other side, merciful. (Bhagavad-gita 1.21-22 Lecture London 18/7/73)
When something is arranged by the
Supreme Personality of Godhead, one should not be disturbed by it, even if it
appears to be a reverse according to one’s calculations. For example,
sometimes we see that a powerful preacher is killed, or sometimes he is put into
difficulty, just as Haridasa Thakura was. He was a great devotee who came into
this material world to execute the will of the Lord by preaching the Lord’s
glories. But Haridasa was punished at the hands of the Kazi by being beaten in
twenty-two marketplaces. Similarly, Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, and
Prahlada Maharaja was put through so many tribulations.
The Pandavas, who were direct friends of Krsna, lost their kingdom, their wife was insulted, and they had to undergo many severe tribulations. Seeing all these reverses affect devotees, one should not be disturbed; one should simply understand that in these matters there must be some plan of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Bhagavatam’s conclusion is that a devotee is never disturbed by such reverses. He accepts even reverse conditions as the grace of the Lord. One who continues to serve the Lord even in reverse conditions is assured that he will go back to Godhead, back to the Vaikuntha planets. (Srimad Bhagavatam 3.16.37 purport)
This is our position. Gradually they will show Hare Krsna movement. In India also, although India’s... They will want to crush down this movement. So this will be up to Him. Krsna or Krsna’s movement, the same thing. And Krsna was attempted to be killed by Kamsa class of men and his company, the demons. SO IT WILL BE THERE; IT IS ALREADY THERE. Don’t be disappointed, because that is the meaning that it is successful. Krsna’s favor is there, because Krsna and Krsna’s movement is not different, identical. So as Krsna was attempted to be killed, many, many years before He appeared... At eighth child, if the mother produces child yearly, still ten years, eight years before His birth, the mother was to be attempted to be killed. SO THERE MAY BE ATTEMPT LIKE THAT. And Lord Jesus Christ was killed. SO THEY MAY KILL ME ALSO. (Conversation Honolulu 3/5/76)
So there are these snake-like persons. They are envious about our movement, and they are opposing. That is the nature. Prahlada Maharaja also was opposed by his father, what to speak of others THESE THINGS WILL HAPPEN... HE WAS ALSO SERVED WITH POISON. (Srimad Bhagavatam Lecture Mayapur 28/02/77)
THAT IS MY ONLY REQUEST, THAT AT THE LAST STAGE DON’T TORTURE ME AND PUT ME TO
(Room Conversation Vrindavan 3/11/77)
The Hare Krishna Saint tortured and poisoned "to death" by his Judas disciples
A 'Not This Body' Production (UK 2005)